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INFO-ATARI16 Digest Thu, 4 Jan 90 Volume 90 : Issue 9
Today's Topics:
Aerco 4 Meg ram upgrade boards
Amiga Software by Atari!!
ATW
cambridge lisp
Make BIOS think screen is 80x20?
Re~2: LHARC takes over? Sure hope not!
SLM804 / HP LJIIp
Unexpandable megas
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Date: 3 Jan 90 22:09:50 GMT
From:
zephyr.ens.tek.com!tektronix!sequent!mntgfx!dclemans@beaver.cs.washington.edu
(Dave Clemans @ APD x1292)
Subject: Aerco 4 Meg ram upgrade boards
Message-ID: <1990Jan3.220950.470@mentor.com>
From article <131@van-bc.UUCP>, by johna@van-bc.UUCP (John Altstadt):
>
> Does anybody have any information on how to add 1 Meg chips to the
> Aerco "easieST" solderless ram upgrade for a 520? The literature
> that came with the board claimed that the board would hold up to
> 4 Meg, but neglected to state how the extra ram should be added to
> the sockets provided. Since I could not afford the 1 Meg ram chips
> when I bought the kit, I didn't bother finding out how it was done.
While the Aerco board can be upgraded to 4mb, it is NOT just a simple
matter of swapping chips (at least for the early boards that this
message talks about). There are a number of traces that have to be
cut, jumpers that have to be added, resistors that have to be swapped,
etc. The upgrade instructions were on the order of 10-20 pages.
Note that the above doesn't apply for a 2.5 meg system; those were
just chip swaps.
To go to four megabytes, you have to cut traces/add jumpers to allow
one of the memory banks to take 1mb chips (256kb chips and 1mb chips
are not pin compatible; the Aerco board was shipped with one bank
set up for 256kb chips, and the other bank set up for 1mb chips; to
goto 4mb you have to rewire the bank that was set up for 256kb chips).
dgc
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Date: 4 Jan 90 07:16:42 GMT
From: oliveb!amdahl!pacbell!sactoh0!mfolivo@CS.BU.EDU (Mark F. Newton)
Subject: Amiga Software by Atari!!
Message-ID: <2360@sactoh0.UUCP>
In article <89122504041857@masnet.uucp>, cs161fca@sdcc10.ucsd.edu@canremote.uucp
(cs161fca@sdcc10.ucsd.edu) writes:
> From: cs161fca@sdcc10.ucsd.edu ( )
> Subj: Amiga Software by Atari!!!
> Orga: University of California, San Diego
>
> Well, back in 1984 Atari had a company called Atarisoft which sold
> software for commodore 64 and other computers...Perhaps things have
> got so bad for Atari (i.e., ST in the market defeated by the Amiga)
> that Atari wants to try the old trick again. However, last time the
> trick did not work... (Atarisoft was a failure.)
>
> ---
> * Via MaSNet/HST96/HST144/V32 - UN Atari ST
> * Via Usenet Newsgroup comp.sys.atari.st
What is this? We've seen all this bullshit before. Give me a break!
Apparently you haven't a clue why some compnaies do what they do,
and are so short sighted, you think that they'd like to screw
themselves.
The simple reason (if you would have thought about it before you
posted this crap) is that Atari had the licenses for the games, and
decided to publish the games for other systems. Christ, even Atari
realizes there are other systems out there, and if they could make
money selling games for those systems, why not?
Atarisoft showed up as the bottom was falling out of the home
computer market in 1984. Everyone started to go out of business.
If Atari, or anyother company publishes software for other systems,
it isn't a sign that their own system is a failure, but as a way to
make money, THAT'S BUSINESS!
Yes, and in no uncertain terms, this is a flame. Apparently you are
some narrow-minded Amiga dweeb, trying to say that the ST isn't
doing well. Why in the hell do you post messages here? Don't be so
bloody smug, trying to stir things up. This is an old post, and I
am tired of seeing people like you post this shit.
Mark Newton-John
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(ames att sun)!pacbell! \ Sakura-mendo, CA
ucdavis!csusac! - sactoh0!mfolivo
uunet!mmsac! /
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Date: 4 Jan 90 08:05:33 GMT
From: fox!portal!cup.portal.com!buggs@apple.com (William Edward JuneJr)
Subject: ATW
Message-ID: <25586@cup.portal.com>
Anyone know what ever became of the Kuma transputer cards?
Anyone ever see one?
Ed June
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Date: 1 Jan 90 19:48:27 GMT
From: cs.dal.ca!silvert@uunet.uu.net (Bill Silvert)
Subject: cambridge lisp
Message-ID: <1990Jan1.194827.25118@cs.dal.ca>
In article <5188@blake.acs.washington.edu> ski2@blake.acs.washington.edu (Chris
Kacoroski) writes:
>I am interested in a lisp (or scheme) interpreter for the Atari ST. I
>have seens ads for Cambridge Lisp in magazines and wonder if anyone could
>tell me about it. I have Xlisp, but am not too happy with it. Really
>appreciate any replies. Thank you
I picked up a copy cheap from my dealer under the impression that
MetaComCo had dropped it. Since I got it to learn LISP and haven't
gotten around to it yet, I can't comment on it, but it looks like a
reasonably well put together package. But does anyone know if it is
still in production? As I recall, I sent in the registration card but
it bounced back to me!
--
Bill Silvert, Habitat Ecology Division.
Bedford Institute of Oceanography, Dartmouth, NS, Canada B2Y 4A2
UUCP: ...!?uunet,watmath?!dalcs!biomel!bill
Internet: bill%biomel@cs.dal.CA BITNET: bill%biomel%dalcs@dalac
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Date: 4 Jan 90 03:46:57 GMT
From: snorkelwacker!ai-lab!jpexg@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (John Purbrick)
Subject: Make BIOS think screen is 80x20?
Message-ID: <5753@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu>
>In SALAD (Still Another Line-A Document) the negative line-A variables
>are documented....
>SALAD is available to developers in a couple of places, including
>online on GEnie and possibly other services. Or call Gail Johnson,
>(408) 745-2000, to get it (or become a developer if you aren't one
>already).
> -- Allan Pratt, Atari Corp.
Could this be made available in the archives accessible via the net? We
should be able to do better than a for-profit outfit like GEnie.
john purbrick
jpexg@ai.mit.edu
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Date: 4 Jan 90 05:15:39 GMT
From: ubc-cs!alberta!atha!rwa@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Ross Alexander)
Subject: Re~2: LHARC takes over? Sure hope not!
Message-ID: <1363@atha.AthabascaU.CA>
klute@trillian writes:
>And another reason to use ZOO or ARC: There is ARCGSH
>available, a program that lets you work with ZOO, ARC and other
>programs from a GEM environment. Check the archives at
>panarthea or terminator and get version 2.1! (Older versions do
>not support ZOO.)
Arcgsh is the best reason I have ever had to install a shell (gulam,
msh, any keyboard oriented line-at-a-time shell at all). Yes, I was
using 2.1 and IMHO it's at least 5 times as much work to use as the
raw commands themselves. Faugh!
Re the compression issue: let's go with zoo; it's available in source
and reasonably quick, and it indeed does hierarchies properly. ARC is
getting a little old and crufty.
--
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Ross Alexander (403) 675 6311 rwa@aungbad.AthabascaU.CA VE6PDQ
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Date: 3 Jan 90 23:06:51 GMT
From:
zephyr.ens.tek.com!tektronix!sequent!mntgfx!dclemans@beaver.cs.washington.edu
(Dave Clemans @ APD x1292)
Subject: SLM804 / HP LJIIp
Message-ID: <1990Jan3.230651.561@mentor.com>
From article <9001030805.AA24560@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, by 01659@AECLCR.BITNET
(Greg Csullog):
>
> 1. Is there a PostScript board for the HP LJ IIp? If not, is there a slot
> in this printer for a PS board?
>
There is a "slot" for a postscript board in the IIp, but nothing is
available yet. The rumors I hear say that it is to be available sometime
in the first half of 1990.
dgc
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Date: 3 Jan 90 22:01:10 GMT
From:
zephyr.ens.tek.com!tektronix!sequent!mntgfx!dclemans@beaver.cs.washington.edu
(Dave Clemans @ APD x1292)
Subject: Unexpandable megas
Message-ID: <1990Jan3.220110.409@mentor.com>
In the systems I've seen, the "unexpandable" Mega 2 board does not
look like a new PCB layout. Instead it looks like the original
layout artwork with the second memory bank covered up so that that
area stayed all copper.
My theory is that they ended up with a run of memory controller
chips that would not reliably drive a 4mb system. Rather than
throw those away, they decided it was cheaper to do a kludge
run of "unexpandable" Mega-2 boards, stuffing the "bad" memory
controller chips into them.
dgc
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