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INFO-ATARI16 Digest Sun, 28 Jan 90 Volume 90 : Issue 110
Today's Topics:
520 expansion board
Atari's Quarterly Results ($5.4 Million Lost) :)
Atari ST software for sale
Calamus: What Fonts Does It Have : Company's Phone # Needed
How to inquire GDOS status ?
ICONE2
INFO-ATARI16 Digest V90 #102
Keyboard Question
KNEBWORTH
memory upgrade
Memory Upgrade's
POOLFIX3.ARC and FOLDR100.PRG
questions on GDos and the Okimate 20, meg upgrade, and the Break key
TOS io redirection bugs
WANTED: LONG. & LATITUDE DATA
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Date: 27 Jan 90 20:21:31 GMT
From: maytag!water!ljdickey@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (L.J.Dickey)
Subject: 520 expansion board
Message-ID: <2934@water.waterloo.edu>
A few months ago, a memory expansion board that was designed
for the 520ST was announced in this news group. I think
it was designed by someone who works at Moncam in the UK.
I am writing to ask if you or someone you know has had any
experience installing this little thing in a 1040ST.
A friend of mine has this and has not yet been able to get
things to work yet. Any tips would be appreciated!
Thank you.
--
L. J. Dickey, Faculty of Mathematics, University of Waterloo.
ljdickey@water.UWaterloo.ca ljdickey@water.BITNET
ljdickey@water.UUCP ..!uunet!watmath!water!ljdickey
ljdickey@water.waterloo.edu
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Date: 27 Jan 90 17:18:40 GMT
From:
cs.utexas.edu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!watserv1!watcgl!electro!ignac@tut.c
is.ohio-state.edu (Ignac Kolenko)
Subject: Atari's Quarterly Results ($5.4 Million Lost) :)
Message-ID: <1288@electro.UUCP>
In article <483f7298.14a1f@force.UUCP> covertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert)
writes:
>What new systems?? The Mythical 1040STe?
~~~~~~~
hmmm. its selling fine and dandy here in canada and in europe!
only in canada you say. pity! :-)
--
=====Ignac A. Kolenko (The Ig) watmath!watcgl!electro!ignac=====
co-author of QuickST, and the entire line of Quick Shareware!!!!
"I don't care if I don't win, 'cause I don't care if I fail"
from 'Youth Of Today' by SUBURBAN DISTORTION
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Date: 26 Jan 90 02:47:15 GMT
From: mailrus!uflorida!unf7!comhex!sysop@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Joe E. Powell)
Subject: Atari ST software for sale
Message-ID: <250@comhex.UUCP>
I have the following ST software for sale. I am selling these for a friend
with no net access. If you decide to buy, I'll tell you where to send your
check.
All games come with original docs and boxes.
Heroes of the Lance (SSI) $10
Phantasie III: The Wrath of Nikademus (SSI) $10
take both SSI and pay $15
Match Point -- Tennis Simulation (Michtron) $5
(no docs...lost 'em, but the game is easy to understand)
Starglider (Rainbird) $8
Rogue (Epyx) (no box -- lost it) $8
--
Joe E. Powell, unf7!comhex!sysop@bikini.cis.ufl.edu
"You trip and fall down the stairs. -more- "
"Your pet rock bounds down the stairs after you. -more-"
"*crunch* -more-"
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Date: 27 Jan 90 16:39:53 GMT
From: cunixc!cunixd.cc.columbia.edu!ia4@columbia.edu (Imran Anwar)
Subject: Calamus: What Fonts Does It Have : Company's Phone # Needed
Message-ID: <2724@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu>
Subject line says it all. Urgently need phone number of Calamus people and
also need to know what "fonts" Calamus comes with.
Thanks.
Imran Anwar
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Date: 27 Jan 90 16:12:16 GMT
From: pasteur!cory.Berkeley.EDU!soohoo@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Ken "nmi" Soohoo)
Subject: How to inquire GDOS status ?
Message-ID: <21499@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>
In article <6:kruel@vax.rz.uni-wuerzburg.dbp.de>
kruel@vax.rz.uni-wuerzburg.dbp.DE (Thomas-Martin Kruel) writes:
>Hallo all,
>
> does anybody know how to inquire if GDOS is loaded or not ? Oh yes, I know
>that Turbo C comes along with this nice function vq_gdos(), but this appears
>not to be a genuine VDI-function.
> Furthermore, I need it for inclusion into Prospero Pascal, which uses GST
>object format, not GST format.
> Are there any assembler codings available ? Any undocumented VDI Escapes ?
>
>Thanks.
>
>
> Thomas-Martin Kruel
> Inst.f.Physikal.Chemie d.Univ.Wuerzburg
> Marcusstr. 9-11, D-8700 Wuerzburg
>
> BITNET: phch020@dwuuni21.bitnet
> EAN: kruel@vax.rz.uni-wuerzburg.dbp.de
Thomas-Martin,
The traditional manner to tell if GDOS is loaded or not, for versions
1.0 and higher, is to implement the following assembly language routine.
That's probably what your compiler has hidden behind that call of yours ;-).
move.w #-2, d0 ;set d0 to -2
trap #2 ;call system (GDOS, or not GDOS?)
cmp.w #-2, d0 ;GDOS will modify...
beq gdos_not_installed
Anyway, that's the way _I_ do it... Wrap it up in compilerese (with
links and unlinks, and such) and voila, you've got a nifty little
GDOS tester!
--Kenneth "kens" Soohoo (soohoo@cory.Berkeley.Edu)
Atari Hacker (Atari's Hacker...)
"It could be worse, you could get hit by a bus..."
My opinions are my OWN, _not_ necessarily Atari's. But "hey", who knows?
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Date: 27 Jan 90 21:57:44 GMT
From:
zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!dogie.macc.wisc.edu!vms.macc.wisc.edu@tut.cis
.ohio-state.edu (Neil Gilmore)
Subject: ICONE2
Message-ID: <3056@dogie.macc.wisc.edu>
In article <9001241926.AA09059@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, MAXG@SUVM.BITNET ("Gerry
Greenberg: 315-443-5378") writes...
(Icone2 bombs deleted)
I've tried to get this one twice (just in case the line noise killed
it), and it bombs every time for me too. So does the first Icone. Not 2
or 3, but many more (I haven't really counted). Does anyone actually use
this?
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| Kitakaze Tatsu Raito Neil Gilmore internet:gilmore@macc.wisc.edu |
| Jararvellir, MACC, UW-Madison bitnet: gilmore@wiscmac3 |
| Middle Kingdom Madison, Wi |
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Date: 27 Jan 90 19:36:14 GMT
From: matthews@umd5.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Subject: INFO-ATARI16 Digest V90 #102
Message-ID: <6031@umd5.umd.edu>
In article <9001270804.AA22868@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> AKISUJAR@NUSVM.BITNET ("S.
Sujarittanonta") writes:
>Ref: Mac Shareware
>Could some kind soul enlighten me on the following?
[stuff deleted]
>3. What happen to the Mac ROM source code released by the NuPrometheous group?
> I heard that it was sent to Taiwan!! Suthipuntha, School of Architecture
> Nat.Univ.of Singapore
If someone released the Mac ROM source code, Apple most likely squashed them
into billions of subatomic particles.
Mike
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Date: 27 Jan 90 20:09:40 GMT
From: maytag!water!ljdickey@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (L.J.Dickey)
Subject: Keyboard Question
Message-ID: <2933@water.waterloo.edu>
In article <9001260516.AA01809@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu> boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey
Boyd) writes:
> ...
>Tech Specialities makes some cases. ...
> ... several netters spoke of bad experiences with this company. ...
> ...
>I suggest you request a catalog, they gave me one with a phone call.
I requested a catalog (via FAX) over a month ago, and so far
have had no response. I suspect that they are out of business.
--
L. J. Dickey, Faculty of Mathematics, University of Waterloo.
ljdickey@water.UWaterloo.ca ljdickey@water.BITNET
ljdickey@water.UUCP ..!uunet!watmath!water!ljdickey
ljdickey@water.waterloo.edu
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Date: 26 Jan 90 09:07:00 GMT
From: mnetor!tmsoft!masnet!canremote!steve.sonne@uunet.uu.net (STEVE SONNE)
Subject: KNEBWORTH
Message-ID: <90012700003048@masnet.uucp>
To:sie@fulcrum.bt.co.uk
From:stevesonne@canremote.uucp
I cant answer your question but your message did make it to Toronto.
Actually I wanted to ask you if you had any details about the concert at
Knebworth on June 30. I'll be flying over to London a week before and
would like to attend.
---
? Via ProDoor 3.2aR
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Date: 28 Jan 90 00:23:21 GMT
From: dartvax!eleazar.dartmouth.edu@CS.BU.EDU (Clark L. Breyman)
Subject: memory upgrade
Message-ID: <18863@dartvax.Dartmouth.EDU>
Folks,
I'm using a 520STfm after exchanging my dead 520STm last
spring. I still have a tech specialties upgrade for the 520 if
anybody is interested. Otherwise I'll recase my ST so it'll fit
(a pain to do). I'm interested in more memory so if someone with
a board which works in the fm or a 1040 (rev E?) wants to dumpt it
...
The 520STfm has ( as I discovered the second my warranty ran out)
a 1040st motherboard with blitter space and half populated memory.
1) Could anyone give gory details to the net on how
to populate the second half of memory with either
256Kx1 or 1M x1's
2) Is there a blitter upgrade for this board? is it worth it?
Thanks,
Clark
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Date: 27 Jan 90 19:27:12 GMT
From: shlump.nac.dec.com!engles.enet.dec.com!powers@decvax.dec.com (Bill
Powers)
Subject: Memory Upgrade's
Message-ID: <7865@shlump.nac.dec.com>
I just got 32 1MBitx1 DRAMS, that I would like to expand my 1040ST's
memory with. I took a quick look through Start Magazine for memory
kits, and I saw 4 of them. They were:
1) Tech Specialties
2) New World Upgrade
3) Arco Board
4) Z-RAM 3D/4Meg
Has anybody any experience with any of these upgrade kits, they
could fill-in the Net about. Like, how easy was it to install? Was
there any soldering/trace cutting involved? How reliable has the memory
upgrade been? Did it interfere with any other upgrade boards installed?
Thanks for any info
Bill Powers
----
Digital Equipment Corp. - Advanced Service Delivery Systems - Stow MA
The opinions expressed above are my own, not my employers.
TELEPHONE - (508) 496 - 8725
E-MAIL - powers@harpo.enet.dec.com
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Date: 27 Jan 90 17:27:45 GMT
From: maytag!water!ljdickey@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (L.J.Dickey)
Subject: POOLFIX3.ARC and FOLDR100.PRG
Message-ID: <2932@water.waterloo.edu>
In article <6021@eagle.wesleyan.edu> ncastellano@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>
>What exactly is poolfix? what versions of Tos need it?
Don't know, but I think it only works with TOS 1.4, but it is supposed to
be harmless if you run it with any other version. It is said that
it check the version number. If it is not 1.4, it quits.
> What ... is the 40 folder bug,
The 40 folder bug works something like this: If during one session,
you "visit" more than 40 or so folders, the system gets confused
and can not find directories and files. When that happened to me
I turned the system off and did a cold boot, and the system then
was able to find things again. The program FOLDR100 changes the
problem into a 100 folder bug. If you have more than 100 folders,
you simply up the number. Currently I have my program named
FOLDR300.PRG.
> how do I find out if I've got it,
I found out when I got a window saying "unable to find file or
application". I felt sure that the file was there. I tried to
erase a file. The system could not find it!
--
L. J. Dickey, Faculty of Mathematics, University of Waterloo.
ljdickey@water.UWaterloo.ca ljdickey@water.BITNET
ljdickey@water.UUCP ..!uunet!watmath!water!ljdickey
ljdickey@water.waterloo.edu
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Date: 28 Jan 90 03:24:38 GMT
From: philmtl!atha!rwa@uunet.uu.net (Ross Alexander)
Subject: questions on GDos and the Okimate 20, meg upgrade, and the Break key
Message-ID: <1610@atha.AthabascaU.CA>
JOHNMAR@IITVAX.BITNET writes:
>I HAVE THREE PROBLEMS. FIRSTLY, I HAVE WORDUP BUT HAVE NO PRINTER DRIVER FOR
No, you have 4 (four) problems. Your fourth problem is that YOU SHOUT
AT EVERYONE. I for one am not deaf. Are you posting from an ASR-33,
or are you using a Model 29 keypunch? More recent devices include an
amazing facility called lower case.
--
--
Ross Alexander (403) 675 6311 rwa@aungbad.AthabascaU.CA VE6PDQ
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Date: 25 Jan 90 16:13:19 GMT
From: imagen!atari!kbad@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Ken Badertscher)
Subject: TOS io redirection bugs
Message-ID: <1991@atari.UUCP>
dal@syntel.mn.org (Dale Schumacher) writes:
| The IS good news, however. By exploiting a "feature" of the Pexec()
| mechanism relating to the h-blank vector, we seem to have a robust
| work-around for most of the redirection problems.
*gasp* okay... I'm with you so far :)
| I'd be willing to post the technique to the net, but I would like to get
| confirmation from Allan or Ken that the "Pexec/H-blank trick" will continue
| to work in future TOS versions.
Yes. Applications are guaranteed to be launched at IPL 0. Amen.
| On a related point, there has been some movement to correct a long-standing
| inconvenience in TOS regarding stderr. Handle 2 is connected to the AUX
| port by default, but I support it's use as a redirectable stderr.
I agree. This is, unfortunately, something Atari can't officially
support, because it's possible that some drain bramaged software out
there acutally uses GEMDOS i/o for the serial port (even though it's
slow) instead of BIOS. Please drum up lots of support from lots of
developers on this issue, and test all of the supported software out
there that uses the serial port to make sure that it doesn't break,
and then Atari will support standard error standard handle 2.
--
||| Ken Badertscher (ames!atari!kbad)
||| Atari R&D System Software Engine
/ | \ #include <disclaimer>
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Date: 28 Jan 90 21:38:05 GMT
From: helios.ee.lbl.gov!ncis.tis.llnl.gov!blackbird!news@ucsd.edu (News System
Account)
Subject: WANTED: LONG. & LATITUDE DATA
Message-ID: <1488@blackbird.afit.af.mil>
In article <2449@sactoh0.UUCP> mfolivo@sactoh0.UUCP (Mark F. Newton) writes:
>In article <111500081@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>, glk01126@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>>
>>
>> I am looking for data pertaining to the longitude and latitude of as
>> many cities in the world as possible in order to write an
>> astrological plotting program. Does anyone know where I may
>> find them or could someone possibly send them?
>>
It isn't much help for world-wide cities, but a road atlas, such as that made
by Rand McNally is a decent source of latitude and longitude information for
U.S. cities (and Canada and Mexico). You should be able to get reasonably
accurate latitude and longitude readings from the various maps in the atlas.
I suppose that there is an equivelant source for cities in the rest of the
world.
>Anyone know the coordinates for Sacramento, CA?
From my road atlas I get: 121deg30min W 38deg30min N +- 15min
If I spent a couple of seconds to actually use a ruler I could give you
more accurate numbers.
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