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Info-Atari16 Digest Vol. 89 Issue 446
INFO-ATARI16 Digest Sun, 15 Apr 90 Volume 90 : Issue 446
Today's Topics:
520 STfm + lots 'o Atari stuff
cad packages (2 msgs)
GEMINI > Console redirection
JRI SIMM board
One fried disk, coming up!
Proposed change to names of sources/binaries postings
Severe Dcreate() bug in GEMDOS 0.23
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Date: 13 Apr 90 23:01:09 GMT
From: portal!cup.portal.com!buggs@apple.com (William Edward JuneJr)
Subject: 520 STfm + lots 'o Atari stuff
Message-ID: <28885@cup.portal.com>
Sorry to poST this but.......
>Rex Jolliff (rex@otto.lvsun.com, ?convex, texsun, mirror?!otto!rex)
I DEFINATELY want the Tackle Box STuff!
PLEASE call me collect!
Ed June
404-471-1549
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Date: 13 Apr 90 21:44:15 GMT
From: att!cbnewsc!cagle@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (robert.cagle)
Subject: cad packages
Message-ID: <15107@cbnewsc.ATT.COM>
I want to purchase a CAD program for my 1040ST
to help me design some woodworking projects.
I would like to stay close to $100, so I think
Dyna-Cadd should stay out of the dicussion.
I have read various reviews about Beta-Cad, Cad-3d,
and Drafix, but haven't found any Chicagoland ST dealers
that have any demo packages to look at.
Any words of advice/warning from ST CAD users?
Anyone use their ST for woodworking design?
Bob Cagle.
att!ihlpm!rpc
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Date: 14 Apr 90 05:20:48 GMT
From:
cs.utexas.edu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!neat.cs.toronto.edu!omicron.cs.fsu.e
du!fsucs.cs.fsu.edu!boyd@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mickey Boyd)
Subject: cad packages
Message-ID: <9004140518.AA25491@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu>
In article <15107@cbnewsc.ATT.COM>, cagle@cbnewsc.ATT.COM (robert.cagle) writes:
>I want to purchase a CAD program for my 1040ST
>to help me design some woodworking projects.
>
>I would like to stay close to $100, so I think
>Dyna-Cadd should stay out of the dicussion.
>
>I have read various reviews about Beta-Cad, Cad-3d,
>and Drafix, but haven't found any Chicagoland ST dealers
>that have any demo packages to look at.
>
>Any words of advice/warning from ST CAD users?
>Anyone use their ST for woodworking design?
>
> Bob Cagle.
> att!ihlpm!rpc
I think CAD-3D (if this is the one by Antic) would be out, it is not really
designed for technical drawings (measurements and stuff). I have read good
reviews on Beta-CAD, and it is cheap.
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Mickey Boyd | "Nobody can be exactly like me.
FSU Computer Science | Even I have trouble doing it."
Technical Support Group |
mail: boyd@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu | - Tallulah Bankhead
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Date: 14 Apr 90 00:38:47 GMT
From:
mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!cs325ec@tut.cis
.ohio-state.edu
Subject: GEMINI > Console redirection
Message-ID: <16000052@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Another Gemini problem: none of my TOS/TTP executables seem to output
their information into the console window. They all run as normal,
royally messing up the screen as it scroles apparantly without the
Shell knowing of it. Anyone have this problem?
-- Greg
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Date: 14 Apr 90 01:38:06 GMT
From: unisoft!bdt!bms@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Vance Chin)
Subject: JRI SIMM board
Message-ID: <2158@bdt.UUCP>
The phone number for JRI is (415) 547-2191. The phone number you
gave was the same. The best time to reach him is noon till 6:00pm PST.
He is gone sometimes during the day picking up parts.
Vance Chin
Berkeley Microsystems
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Date: 13 Apr 90 15:14:21 GMT
From:
cs.utexas.edu!mailrus!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!watserv1!ria!uwovax!42
25_5132@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Andrew Semple)
Subject: One fried disk, coming up!
Message-ID: <5719.2625b48d@uwovax.uwo.ca>
In article <12096@ttidca.TTI.COM>, woodside@ttidca.TTI.COM (George Woodside)
writes:
> In article <5671.262220af@uwovax.uwo.ca> 4225_5132@uwovax.uwo.ca (Andrew
Semple) writes:
>>
>> lots of stuff about destroying a disk with Format 11.
>>
>
> If your disk was write protected, the formatter should have been unable
> to modify it. However, your note indicates that it is now unreadable.
>
> If you have access to any of the disk copiers, make a backup copy of
> the disk first. Make a couple, in fact.
I am unable to make copies of the disk, in any way (I have tried almost all
the pd copiers avail., from DC format all the way to Hack'nwhatever).
>
> If only the boot sector is destroyed, you have hope. If the FAT and
> Directory have been destroyed, you now have a scratch disk, suitable
> for formatting.
It seems that this is the problem, and I have given up, in the process
deleteing all copies of Format 11 (I found the originals, and the doc's say
that the writer won't be held responsible (I have no problem with this) and
that is about all. No info on what it does to your disk).
> The easiest way I know to rebuild the boot sector (pardon my humility)
> is to use the REPAIR function of VKILLER (version 3.00 or higher,
> posted here a few months ago, and available in the May, 1990 issue of
> STart Magazine).
This also met with no success.
What I still find incredible is that this program did this to my disk with
the WRITE PROTECTION ON. How? (The drive made a real good noise as it sounded
(to me) that the head was traversing the sectors from the inside, out).
> * George R. Woodside - Citicorp/TTI - Santa Monica, CA *
> * Path: woodside@ttidca *
> * or: ..!?philabs|csun|psivax?!ttidca!woodside *
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Andrew Semple Andrew.Semple@hydra.uwo.ca
2nd Year Applied Math/Computer Science ads@hydra.uwo.ca
The University of Western Ontario
London, Ontario
Canada "Perfection is the result of extensive correction" -Emery
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Date: 13 Apr 90 21:10:32 GMT
From: cs.dal.ca!silvert@uunet.uu.net (Bill Silvert)
Subject: Proposed change to names of sources/binaries postings
Message-ID: <1990Apr13.211032.23789@cs.dal.ca>
In article <1588@male.EBay.Sun.COM> koreth@panarthea.ebay.sun.com (Steven Grimm)
writes:
>Someone has suggested that since software to automatically save news articles
>using the filename in the "Archive-name" pseudo-header line, I should stop
>calling the articles program/part01, program/part02, etc. and start calling
>them program/program.uaa, program/program.uab, and so on. This would enable
>Dumas uud to pick up the parts effortlessly.
>
>Personally, I'd like to see Dumas uud hacked to take multiple filenames
>on the command line instead, but it's no problem for me to use the proposed
>filenames if people prefer that.
It has been hacked. I've mailed out several dozen copies of a version
that decodes as many files as you want (in fact, I routinely decode all
of the ST and PC files I pull of the net with a single command). I'll
send a copy to Steven, although since I asm not the author of the
original, I really don't feel in a position to make a formal submission.
--
William Silvert, Habitat Ecology Division, Bedford Inst. of Oceanography
P. O. Box 1006, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CANADA B2Y 4A2. Tel. (902)426-1577
UUCP=..!?uunet|watmath?!dalcs!biomel!bill
BITNET=bill%biomel%dalcs@dalac InterNet=bill%biomel@cs.dal.ca
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Date: 15 Apr 90 16:06:42 GMT
From: haven!wam!dmb@ames.arc.nasa.gov (David M. Baggett)
Subject: Severe Dcreate() bug in GEMDOS 0.23
Message-ID: <1990Apr15.160642.28299@wam.umd.edu>
alderaan@tubopal.UUCP (Thomas Cervera) writes:
> I'm going to patch this bug by telling GEMDOS to do the check itself. To
>realize this, I have to write some reentrant GEMDOS code. Is there anybody
>out there remembering the discussion about this subject several months ago ?
>Someone posted a trick to make GEMDOS a bit :-) reentrant (if my memory
>serves me right, something has to be added to the SP after each call) ...
> Could someone repost this article or send it by mail (BITNET preferred) ?
This sounds like the trap handlers I posted a while back.
The "fix" I posted was a rewrite of the Bios and Xbios trap handlers
for use with Sozobon C. The specific use in my case was so I could call
Setscreen from a process termination handler, so that the screen would get
put back to normal regardless of how the program terminated (i.e., even
if an exception occurred).
I posted a GEMDOS trap handler too, but that was an unfortunate oversight
since (as several people pointed out) you can't call the GEMDOS from a
process termination handler.
In other words, the trap handlers were mostly a fix to Sozobon, not an
attempt to make the GEMDOS more reentrant.
Dave Baggett
dmb@cscwam.umd.edu
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