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((CONTENTS))
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Section 1..............Standard Information
Section 2...........................General
Section 3.............................Files
Section 4.............................Music
Section 5..............................Code
Section 6...........................Demo CD
Section 7....................Advertisements
Section 8..................Top 25 Downloads
Section 9..............................Misc
Section 10...........................Closing
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((Section 1...Standard Info))
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DemoNews is a weekly publication dedicated to the demo scene. It is
produced at the Internet FTP site ftp.eng.ufl.edu (aka WASP or HORNET).
This newsletter focuses on all aspects of demos and demo-making (including
music, art, and coding).
There are currently four active demo-operators at this site:
Dan Wright (Pallbearer) - GENERAL - dmw@eng.ufl.edu
Christopher G. Mann (Snowman) - GENERAL - r3cgm@dax.cc.uakron.edu
Mike - GENERAL - weis@elf.stuba.sk
Jason (Cavalier) - ANSI - cavalier@shadow.net
This site is mirrored by the following ftps:
ftp.uwp.edu
ftp.luth.se --> DOWN lately due to hard drive problem.
ftp.sun.ac.za
ftp.uni-erlangen.de
ftp.uni-paderborn.de
ftp.cdrom.com
SUBSCRIPTIONS TO THIS "NEWSLETTER" can be obtained by mailing:
listserver@oliver.sun.ac.za
and putting "subscribe demuan-list your_real_name" in your message.
The listserver is what sends out this newsletter every SUNDAY morning.
kimba@it.com.au is the keeper of the listserver.
For those who use the GUI environment check out our DN.HMTL in the
/demos/news directory. The URL is ftp://ftp.eng.ufl.edu/demos/news/DN.HTML
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((Section 2...General))
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Our space problem has cooled off for awhile. We have about 15-20 Megs free
so you should not have problems uploading any new stuff.
Please keep the creation of directories to a minimum--none--cause they are
too hard to delete or in our case to hard to get the sys admin to delete
them.
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((Section 3...Files))
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Filename.ext Location Description
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| --DEMOS-- | (all locations start with /pub/msdos/demos...)
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boem.arj /alpha/NEW Decent BBS intro by Spirit. GUS.
pgloader.zip /alpha/NEW Power Grids BBS loader. SB. Newest version.
riversos.arj /alpha/NEW Rivers of Suggestion by SUBSYSTEMS. GUS/SB.
shamaani.zip /alpha/NEW Complex's production from Abduction party.
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| --MUSIC-- | (all locations start with /pub/msdos/demos/music...)
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cc_rtsnd.zip /disks Capacala (The Real Thing)
butr-klf.zip /klf Space Butter by Maelcum
cell-klf.zip /klf Cellar Dweller by Maelcum
flk_face.zip /klf Facing the Hole by Piromaniak
here-klf.zip /klf Here It Is by Maelcum
klf-wos2.zip /klf World of Spirits by Khyron
poet!klf.zip /klf Poetry in Motion II by Basehead
rbth-klf.zip /klf Rebirth of Rave by Maelcum
tl-demon.zip /songs/mod Demonic Sensation by Timelord
death_st.zip /songs/s3m The Deat's Dance by Crazy Teo
jackedin.zip /songs/s3m Jacked In by Freejack
never_al.zip /songs/s3m Never Alone by Crazy Teo
ragdepth.lzh /songs/s3m Raging Depths by Zigg
DELETED
-corrupt- tdm_fonk.lzh
-cleanout- 9innails.zip auxilary.zip axlmod01.zip axlmod02.zip
axlmod03.zip backward.zip blender .zip enjoys3m.zip
inca .lzh m4w200sx.zip modpro .zip morgl100.zip
nobody .zip octavius.zip overflow.zip please .zip
pn_coral.zip pn_dscal.zip progres2.zip secsight.lzh
shatdelu.lzh silver .zip sky_armg.zip sky_nagd.zip
sky_pand.zip sky_psrx.zip sky_sbvr.zip sky_wait.zip
worldtec.lzh zzplay10.lzh
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| --ART/ANSI-- | (all locations start with /pub/msdos/demos/...)
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We have an ANSI maintainer--cavalier@shadow.net. He usually posts his
comments within the "/incoming/ansi" directory.
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| --CODE-- | (all locations start either /demos/programming or /demos/code)
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The /programming directory will be reorganized and slowly moved to the /code
directory by me, Snowman.
wgt5beta.zip /code/graph/library WGT5.0 for Watcom C 10.0 graphics library
3dvect38.zip /code/graph/vector 3D Vector Engine by John McCarthy
pm-10-94.zip /code/pmode PMODE 3.04 - October Update
sb_pas10.zip /code/sound Program SB in Turbo Pascal
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| --MISC-- | (all locations start with /pub/msdos/demos/...)
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acme-cl2.zip DELETED ACME mini music disk...CORRUPT.
asm94rep.zip /compos/asm94 ASM '94 Party review by Iguana.
/groups/iguana
bus-hyp.arj /compos/party94 Hypnosis's bustrip to the PARTY IV.
gd0994.zip /diskmags Diskmag by ESCAPE.
platin12.lzh /diskmags Platinum 12 diskmag. German.
tplas20.zip DELETE Screen saver.
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((Section 4...Music Articles by Snowman))
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(GENERAL)
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There were not many uploads this week. :(
Next week, no-ryan.zip and no-cc.zip will be deleted. These are the tunes
from Renaissance's music disk Nothing On, and they are very good. I suggest
you download them now before they are gone.
I wrote a hell of a lot of material for this issue of Demonews. Rather than
skimming and deleting it because there is so much, I suggest you save it and
read it a little bit at a time.
Here's a rather odd letter I recently received:
Snowman : Tue Oct 4 21:35:33 1994
I was lurking through a ftp site down in florida earlier tonight when I saw
that's it's operator's name was "Snowman".
By coincedence my handle also happens to be "Snowman". I've written to find
out when you adopted the name "Snowman", for if you chose the name before me
then I cannot with good conscience continue going by that title.
If I chose the name first then I have no problems living on the Net with
another Snowman. (I would never dream of demanding anyone to change their
name).
I decided to change my handle to Snowman during in March of 1993. I would be
gratefull if you can inform me as to the date you changed your
name. Thanks in advance.
[Back to Snowman (Christopher G. Mann)]
Just for the record, I chose my handle in February of 1992, when I first log-
ged on Canton Connection BBS. I had absolutely reason for chosing that
specific name. At the "Handle: " prompt, I had to type something, so I just
thought Snowman was as good a name as any.
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(MOD4WIN 2.10)
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!What a player!
I first downloaded MOD4WIN a couple of months ago and was very impressed. I
don't like Windoze, but this player was enough to keep me in the straight-
jacket-GUI for a while. My shareware expiration came and I couldn't use the
program any more. I stopped using Windoze.
Recently one of the authors of MOD4WIN wrote me and asked if I'd like a
registered version of the program. I said sure, and last week I got it in the
mail. This may seem like a small thing, but the label on the disk was very
nice and it set me up for the professional level of this player.
I tested MOD4WIN out of a couple of my own tunes and it handled them wonder-
fully. It uses whatever sound drivers you currently have installed in Windows
so both GUS and SB users should be happy. It handles MOD, S3M, MTM, 669, with
more formats being supported soon. The sound output is excellent, and MOD4WIN
can play songs back at 44.1, in stereo, 16-bit, and in Q-Sound. There is also
a read-ahead buffer so that the song doesn't jump everytime a new window or
application is being opened.
The authors have done his homework to provide this level of excellence. I
believe that they deserve a lot of credit for putting this thing together.
You can find the shareware version of MOD4WIN at :
/music/programs/players/m4w210sx.zip & m4w210sx.txt
You can contact the authors at :
jpuchert@mailbox.syr.edu
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(DYNAMIC STUDIO)
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[VLad DRacl writes...]
Well, I just downloaded the Dynamic Tracker, and I must say I like it a
LOT... 255 instrument limit, 16 channels, sample editing, MIDI
capabilities, CD-Player and more. Plus, a nice looking interface...
Though it's quite mouse-driven, there's also keyboard commands for most
of it, which makes it nice. The interface reminds me of something...
(amiga) Can't quit place it... (amiga) I think I've seen it before...
(amiga) I think the (amiga) interface of it is one of the slickest
(amiga) GUI/text type thingies I've seen... :)
Sound quality is good, plenty of effects, looks nice... I (would) give
this tracker 2 thumbs up if it weren't for the STRICT crippling of the
program (no saves, no CD play, some other stuff)... Plus, for $55, it
isn't exactly going to be the demo-musician's first choice. :( Not only
that, but the first method of payment they suggest is *CASH*... Hmmm....
Anyway, though... I like this tracker, but there's some seriously
badly crippled features that can't be accessed unless you send (roughly)
$55 CASH to SWEDEN, for gawd sake! *sigh* Looks like I'll be sticking to
MMEDIT for a little while longer... :(
-VLad DRacl-
[Back to Snowman]
I really like this tracker as well. However, $55 is a bit out of my price
range at this point. I was going to contact the author about the tracker,
but I couldn't find internet address in the documentation. If you are from
ProWare Sweden, please get in contact with me. I may be able to help you get
some registrations.
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(MUSIC CONTEST ][ RESPONSE)
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Most of the feedback I have received concerning MC][ has been positive. Here
are just a few of the letters I have received.
Hadji : Tue Sep 27 01:09:51 1994
Hey Snowman...just thought i'd tell you that you put a lot of work into
Music Contest ][, and I enjoyed it, even if I am still not satisfied with
the song I entered ;) Haha...but in all seriousness, I'd like to see you
get on IRC sometime too man! :) C-ya!
Ryan Cramer : Tue Sep 27 10:02:15 1994
...I also thought that the MC2 demo was quite awesome, I think that
everybody is really going to be impressed how nicely the results were
presented. MC2 really wrapped up nicely. I'm going to start my MC3 song
now. :) I think its great that you exceeded everybody's expectations by
producing a demo and putting everything on CD... Anyways, great work!
Krystall : Tue Sep 27 17:59:39 1994
...I must say that the contest was pretty well organised. You found a way
to make the votes fair to everybody.
I don't have a lot of time to write you, but here are some things I found
you could do for the next one.
The most important thing, IMHO, would be to make the contest shorter.
You could make it finish in the summer, like July, to be sure that the
results are released before the school start. It would be better for
everyone.
Imre OLAJOS, Jr. (LaLa of TranSByte) : Thu Sep 29 01:27:18 1994
MC2 was an excellent way to let the world know about the talented amateur
musicians. Personally, I am very proud of my music which was ranked 6th in
the Rookie section. I think, the quality and the quantity of the composi-
tions was fairly high, and it was DAMN WELL-ORGANIZED !!! :)
Just a thought for MC3: why not release all the entries to some public
place, like the WUARCHIVE, or the official GUS FTP-site, or even the
Usenet? There still would be dedicated judges, just like in MC2, but the
broader public would have a chance to vote, too. For example, each indivi-
dual would vote for the first three musics, and these votes would be
accumulated.
I know that technically it is very hard to implement, but it is not
impossible. Also, how about the ever-growing WWW? It would be nice to set
up a neat hypertext page for MC3 and have everybody free access to all the
entries and other related infos.
Alexander Verburgt : Sat Oct 1 09:44:51 1994
Hi Snowman,
thanks for organising the MC ][. I like the idea of this
compo and it was for me a very nice experience.
I will certainly join MC ]I[ next year !!
Jenkins of Synth Dream PC : Tue Oct 4 09:11:37 1994
I really enjoyed participating and I am looking forward to MC]I[!
Good things about the contest:
* joining a contest without traveling across the world to some party place
* strong judgement system: gives a musician really the feeling people have
been listening to their tune instead of voting on famous names
* detailed information available, including updates: gave me the feeling
the contest was still alive
* friendly organisation: incorrect uploads were not wiped immediately
* and most important of all: a deadline, fast publishing of results and
incredible fast sending of prizes (Ive got mine = netherlands in one week)
Clement Poon : Thu Oct 13 11:28:04 1994
Hi! I would just like to inform you that I got my disk ok, like you asked
us to do. I did expect songs instead of the MC2 files, but that's ok!
Anyways, here's some feedback on the results for MC2:
All us 'Calgary' musicians (me, Markell (1st), Lloyd, etc.. and other non
musicians) thought that the results were kinda rushed and didn't really
make much sense... But oh well, these reflect our opinions and not the
judges, so what's final is final. Oh well, it was a good contest anyways.
So I still look forward to MC ]I[.
Oh, BTW, I know that this was a BIG contest, but I would've really liked
it if each judge could just put in a couple words to justify their decisions
like the MC I thing. It would've helped us understand why each song
deserved what it got...
Clement Poon...continued : Fri Oct 14 15:54:23 1994
Anyways, we were on the subject about voting. You did mention that there
was 75 entries and 13 judges. Yah, I understand how big a task that might
have been, so when the job gets BIG like this one, split up the work load!
Have each judge write up comments and then upload the whole wad to you, and
all you have to do is just stick it in one big archive containing all the
comment files from each judge! I don't know, cause of course, I have never
done a music contest before, so there's got be to another side to side, but
it's a suggestion anyways.
Oh, about the voting. Somehow, I am opposed as to having public voting.
It's just that if you have public voting and you have 2 categories to
go by, I think that you should have 2 seperate categories of judges.
Because one is based on Samples and the only one, Technical, it's really
hard for the judges to give fair marks. So might be not that good at music
theory (that DOES include me!), they would have no idea how to give fair
marks to the Veterans guys.
...Now are the judges being objective or are they just bored with listening
to so many songs? I think that the panel should've been split. Oh well...
I would like to say that MC ][ was still a great success and congratulate
you for it!
[Back to Snowman]
As you can see, there were many good suggestions. I will probably implement
some of them when MC]I[ rolls around. Overall, people seem to be very pleased
with the way MC2 turned out. I was happy to do it, and I look forward to
doing it again next year.
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((Section 5...Code Articles by Snowman))
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(GENERAL)
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There are two very good manuals out there that I have seen for programming
demos.
The first is Richard Ferraro's THIRD edition to: Programmer's Guide to the
EGA, VGA, and SVGA cards. Our local Borders book store had this at $45.
Its ISBN is: 0-201-62490-7.
The second is Tricks of the Game Progamming Guru. It has a CDRom full of C
source code and covers many topics like ray-casting (used in Doom) and
vectors. It is published by Sams. I have bought "Teach Yourself C in 21
Days" and "Teach Yourself Advanced C in 21 Days" from Sams, and they are sup-
erior manuals. I expect no less from this new manual. You can pick it up
for around $45. Thanks to Trixter who pointed this book out to me.
I currently don't have either of these manuals. :(
Of course, the best trainer IMO for getting started in the demo scene is
Denthor of Asphyxia's "VGA Trainer series". You can find these under
/code/graph/tutor. Best of all, its FREE! :) I am currently working on
converting the source in these tutorials from Pascal to C.
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((Section 6...ESCAPE Demo/Music CD))
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Check /pub/msdos/demos/incoming/democd for UPDATES and information.
We now have everything done for the CD and ready to be sent off for
pressing. Of course I had hoped to be done by MID OCTOBER but the
queueing of data and art took much longer then expected--especially
the art part. Considering how talented people in the demo scene are
it is amazing how difficult it is to get anyone in ANY group to
contribute art or anything else. This is "THE" demo CD we are creating...
for demo enthusiast by demo enthusiast. We didn't put any .GIF's or .FLI's
or other shit on this disk...just DEMOS/INTROS/MUSIC...and a couple
demo diskmags. The results will be out in about TWO weeks so we will
let YOU (well, those who order/requested/will order) be the judge. We
are pressing 300 copies with an option to press another 150 (unlikely).
This is not done for profit and we do not have any big distributors/
investors so the pressrun was kept to a minimum to reduce possible loss.
I expect to upload .jpg files (800x600 or higher) of the ART appearing
on the CD in their anticipated COLORS. You can download this BIG file
from the /democd directory.
The CD will contain 209Megs of data and 48 minutes worth of music (12 songs)
which is a correction from last weeks newsletter. I had to sixth about
20 megs for formatting space/precautions. The CD will be a Mixed-MODE
ISO 9660 formatted CD. Approximate selling cost is $10 (down from earlier
predicted cost). I hope to have an EXACT cost by next week so people can
start sending money/etc.
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((Section 7...Advertisements))
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From zynit@maloka.waw.pl Fri Oct 14 19:10:57 1994
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ftp://deadbaby.res.wpi.edu/
Deadbaby is a FTP site run by SiDS [ACiD], who also coded the well know
tribe view. This is an ANSI/Art Scene ONLY site. No demos, no muzak, no
code, just packs, zines and text files. Deadbaby is also a dist site for
many groups, including: katharsis!ascii, shiver, union, etc etc... hmm...
that's about all... so ftp over to
deadbaby.res.wpi.edu NOW!
[This is great...maybe we will transfer all our ANSI/GFX to the
above mentioned site and gain some much needed space.]
From rob@span.com Sat Oct 15 19:13:45 1994
:: The Latest & Best Multimedia Collection ::
19.00 UK Pounds (approx US$28)
*** Hot Sound & Vision Volume 2 ***
Released 22nd September 1994
The CD has 661mb of stuff on it, with a superb frontend menu
Files are in ZIP/GIF/JPG, and each directory has a FILES.BBS
DEMO\MAIN * 58mb, 215 files * The World's Best Demos
DEMO\ANSI * 56mb, 98 files * ANSi Graphics & MiniDemo Packs
DEMO\MUSIC * 28mb, 28 files * MultiMedia MusicDisk Collections
DEMO\GAME * 42mb, 40 files * GameMags, GameReviews, and GameDemos
DEMO\DIY * 13mb, 128 files * Make your own Demos; Source & Utils
FUN * 62mb, 300 files * Fun and Games on a Grand Scale
SOUND\PROGS * 16mb, 111 files * Sound & Music Software
SOUND\MOD\PRO * 58mb, 438 files * MODs : Songs By Prolific MODmakers
SOUND\MOD\MISC * 95mb, 752 files * MODs : Songs By Everyone Else
SOUND\MIDI * 6mb, 42 files * MIDI : Musical Inst. Dig. Interface
SOUND\GUS * 14mb, 111 files * Gravis : UltraSound Utils/Songs
SOUND\SAMPLE * 9mb, 31 files * Samples : Noises, Voices, Beeps etc
GIF\PROGS * 6mb, 22 files * Software to View/Edit/Hack GIF/JPG Pics
GIF\ANIMAL * 25mb, 144 files * GIF/JPG Pictures: Animals/Nature
GIF\ART * 19mb, 161 files * GIF/JPG Pictures: Art/Paintings/Cartoons
GIF\FEMALE * 67mb, 604 files * GIF/JPG Pictures: Female
GIF\MISC * 22mb, 136 files * GIF/JPG Pictures: Miscellaneous
GIF\TRAVEL * 13mb, 115 files * GIF/JPG Pictures: Travel/Space/War
VISION\PROGS * 16mb, 98 files * Various Graphics/Screen Programs
VISION\FLI * 20mb, 31 files * Animations (FLI/GL/DL/MPG etc)
VISION\RAY * 9mb, 57 files * Computer Oriented Art (Raytrace/Fractal)
HOTSV2 * 7mb, 21 files * Useful Software, and Index Files/Lists
Cost : 19.00 UK Pounds
Add 4% if CreditCard. Add 17.5% VAT UK/EC.
Postage : Free UK, 2.00 Outside UK, 3.00 Outside Europe.
Inclusive Price : 23.22 UK, 25.22 EC, 22.76 World.
Hot Sound & Vision 1 still available for UKP-15.00 (+VAT/CCard)
Or buy HotS&V-1 AND HotS&V-2 for only UKP-30.00 (+VAT/CCard)
Cards Accepted : Access/Visa/Mastercard/Eurocard
Cheques Accepted : Must be in POUNDS STERLING.
Orders by email : rjb@span.com
Orders by voice : RJB Communications on +44 (0)1932-253131
Orders by B.B.S : Sound & Vision BBS on +44 (0)1932-252323
Orders by mail : 24 Oatlands Chase, Weybridge, Surrey KT13 9RY, UK
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((Section 8...Top 25 Downloads))
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Not this week.
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((Section 9...Misc))
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I maintained this demo site from its beginnings in August/September 1992
to April 1993 and then from Late 1993 till now. I plan on retiring from
mainting this site within the next month and would like somone to replace
me. As we stand this person will be Snowman (Christopher) however, Snowman
will need somone to help him. If you really explored this site you know
it could use some updating--demos reviewed, older/crap demos deleted,
file links deleted, files linked, certain directories updated and such. I
do not have the time to do all this...maybe you do. Maybe you have ideas
for improvement. If you feel you can help and are a dedicated person
then please contact Snowman or myself. We only want SERIOUS people who
can continue to put in the 5-10 hours a week this site requires. Most
of the previous people who attempted to help started strong and dwindled
to not helping at all...the work built up and now...well, there is
enough work to occupy a 40 hour week then 5 hours each additional week.
Well, maybe I am exagerating.
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((Section 10...Closing))
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Questions/Comments/Complaints...mail:
-dmw@eng.ufl.edu
