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Cris Vol 1 Issue 05
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Written for Crisnews
by: Jene Paris
CLETON iS MAD AS HELL AND
HE AiN'T GONNA TAKE
iT ANYMORE
OR
HOW i STOLE THE ViRUS ECHO
BY
Geno Paris
Brother Mikey contacted me by voice the other day, and asked
me to document the specifics of how i got took over the moderator-
ship of the virus echo. He said to make a nice article and not to be
crude and say things like s*it and f*ck, so of course i shall
not do anything like that :) The whole thing started about two
months ago, when Paul Ferguson was claiming moderatorship of the
Virus Conference echo. it seems that Paul was allowing encrypted
messages to be transfered through the echo (using the PGP program).
Now at the time i was a major hub (i am still a fidonet hub, but
i transfer no where near the amount of mail that i did then) for
fidonet, with just about all of the Z1 backbone being transfered through
my system.
SEX iS HiGHLY OVER RATED....UNLESS YOU'RE NOT GETTiNG ANY
-COLOSTOMY BAGBOY
i notified Mr. Ferguson that it was illegal to transfer
encrypted mail and quoted him the part of BackBone Operating
policy (BOP 1.03) regarding encrypted mail:
5.2 Banned Messages
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The Backbone does not distribute any conference which routinely
contains messages which are encrypted, contain illegal information or
promote illegal activities. As used in this paragraph, "illegal
activities" includes activities which are a violation of civil
law as well as activities which would result in criminal
prosecution.
Now i want to point out that i was very polite to Mr. Ferguson,
i informed him that as a sysop could not verify the mail if it
was encrypted, to see if it did in fact violate state or federal
laws, and that in any case since i was paying the long distance
phone bill to bring the echomail in, i did not appreciate mail
that i could not read. As i said, i pointed this out very politely.
The next thing i know, i get the extremely nasty message from Mr.
Edwin Cleton, telling me that he was the moderator, and that
basically that i should in no uncertain terms shut up. Now at this
point, i am confused. First Paul Ferguson is claiming moderatorship
and now Mr. Cleton. So i checked out the Elisting (for those not familiar
the Elist, is a listing of all fidonet echos and the moderators of
each echo). After consulting the Elist i found something very
interesting, neither Mr. Cleton or Mr. Ferguson were the proper
moderator, someone named Marc Spain was. i pointed this out to Mr.
Cleton in the echo, that neither him or Mr. Fergson was the proper
moderator of the echo. At this point, Edwin lied to me. He told
me that both himself and Mr. Ferguson were in fact Elisted and
kicked me out of the echo, sending netmail to my sysop asking
that my feed be cut.
i AM CONViNCED THAT iF SOMEONE DOES NOT DO iT FOR YOU, EVERYONE ON THiS
EARTH MAKES THYSELF THEiR OWN PARTiCULAR HELL ON EARTH
-SON OF SAM
Now a funny thing happened when Mr. Cleton sent my NC a message. You
see my NC John Burton is a straight arrow in fido. He is not a bad
sort, but he lives and breathes fido, goes to sleep with Policy4 and
BOP 1.03. When he found that Mr. Cleton was not the proper Elisted
moderator of the echo, well he just ignored him (funny thing is Cleton
kicked John Burton out of the echo, and he doesn't even get it).
Now personally, this whole deal made me a bit upset. i decided i was
not going to take this lying down. i got on the phone to a friend (who
though is a REC of fidonet, will have to remain nameless at this
time) i was able to obtain the Elist password for Virus (but as it
turns out i did not need it, the Elisting had expired). So i Elisted
the echo, petitioned for it's return to the backbone which made
me the moderator. Guess what, my first official act was to throw
Cleton out of the echo :)
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GOT, UNTiL iT'S GONE
-"PHONEY" JONNiE MiTCHELL
Mr. Cleton was quite upset when I threw him out of the echo, regardless
of how this whole thing turns out, the following message makes the
whole thing worth while:
By: Edwin Cleton
To: Dries Bessels
Re: Moderator?
St: Local Rcvd
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> I'm confused!!! Who is the current moderator of this echo?
> I thought Edwin but now it is Gene?????
>> EC> Ec., Moderator VIRUS Conference
>> Please stop posting this type of message. You are not the moderator
>> of this echo. This is your second and last warning.
>> Gene Paris Moderator
Take no notice of this idiot, he has been access denied to this echo for over 2
months, but some usa nodes either refuse to listen or are being blackmailed to
not cut links, mr. paris has been and very likely still is involved in child
porno where he managed to involve others who are now facing exposure if they
cut links to his node, I am working on it, patients please.
Ec., Moderator VIRUS Conference
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* Origin: [MPwrHQ] #Cc.MisTeam Europe +31-10-4795892 [#Twin*] (2:285/817)
Will i retain moderatorship of the echo? Well that remains to be
seen, certainly by BOP 1.03 i am the moderator, it states:
4.2 Recognition of Moderators
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A Moderator is recognized as follows:
1) Upon formation of a conference, the person who forms the
conference is the Moderator.
2) Upon resignation or replacement of an existing Moderator,
the conference's rules define how the new Moderator is
selected.
3) Should a conference which originates inside of FidoNet be
without a moderator for over 30 days, the ZEC may cause a
Moderator to be selected.
Moderators are responsible for:
1) Seeing that messages in their conference correspond to
the conference's theme.
2) Updating their conference listing in Echolist at least
every six months.
As you can see policy is very unclear about moderation of the
echos. Generally, by tradition the Elisted moderator, is the
moderator. He has the Zone 2 ZEC on his side but i am not without
my own supporters. Regardless i am having fun, and even were
i too lose i feel i have gotten even with Cleton. Those who live
in glass outhouses shouldn't be so quick to throw shit :)
So keep watching everyone, for as long as it lasts.
Geno
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