Addendum Issue 068

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Issue# 68 : Life would be dull without me 
17th June 2002 
Author: Steak 
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This was a rather interesting argument that I had with a very intent  
Eminem fan on the winamp forums, I had quite a bit of fun and I think 
that what I wrote is worth something, even just to show my feelings on 
old Mr. Mathers 

If you haven’t already guessed, I am [Steak] and our resident homie-g is 
[Elementaluk] 

Other peoples responses have been omitted from the post simply because 
it wouldn't make that much sense if I left them in. If you wish to see 
what other people wrote the URL of the thread is 
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=89131 

 
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[Elementaluk] 
Yo Slim's new album ain't got that copy protect sh*t on it cause i bought  
it on monday and it went on my computer no problem.  

I hate  the arses that copy or download eminem's album because i think he's  
the only music artist that deserves every penny for his music but as for  
all the pop lovers download music as much as you can try not to pay for  
it as cardboard cut out stars dont deserve sh*t.  

yo if u ain't bought Eminem's album yet u gotta get it...there ain't 1  
song on it that is sh*t...but u gotta expect that from Eminem now so  
far he hasn't released a album that sucks.  

-Vince   

P.S. i got it on monday cause it came out in the UK on monday 

 
[Steak] 
Well the old Eminem argument, just had to stick in my 2c  

Personally I can’t see what the big deal is with him, in my view he’s  
just a guy that’s trying to get his records sold to adolescent teenagers  
that are trying to rebel against something that they can’t find.  

You can tell this by the forums over at eminem.com one Moby forumer said  
that “the shit of the internet go over there to take a dump” and I  
couldn’t agree more, go and take a look at the quality of posts there  
compared to the ones here at winamp.com (that is if you can bare to get 
passed all the forced “looped beats”  )  

And I wouldn’t classify his sounds as music; real music comes from the  
greats like Beethoven, Mozart and Rossini, to the (relatively) modern  
greats like Bob Dylan, Eric Clapton, Moby, Sting and the Police. That  
music sounds nice, is easy to listen to, is un-offensive, can be beautiful  
and can inspire all the best feelings in someone, music is supposed  
to sooth the savage beast, not enrage it.  

And I don’t care if some little whining teenager decides that he is  
going to try and rebel against me and tell me to stick my Beethoven  
where the sun don’t shine, or put's  's next to thier names, because  
I know that you need some intelligence to appreciate music like that,  
and no little brat is going to change my mind on that issue.  

To quote Phisherman in a really old topic on the winamp forums “any  
average loser can set up a drum loop and start rhyming and make tons  
of Money.” And it’s true, anyone can swear into a microphone as well,  
hell I could do it and get a lot of people pissed off but I don’t want  
to, I would prefer to express myself in more mature and constructive  
ways, if we don’t do this society will fall in around us. Yo.  

And it is true, Eminem’s sounds aren’t really pop, it doesn’t have that  
whiney ultra-sonic sound to it (well in some of it, it does but in most,  
not) it’s just made the same way, i.e. synthesised manufactured backing  
beats and a song that the leading ‘artist’ didn’t write.  

I guess it all comes down to taste in the end, but if I want to hear  
crap I’ll turn the volume up on my toilet   

 

[Elementaluk] 

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Personally I can’t see what the big deal is with him, in my view he’s  
just a guy that’s trying to get his records sold to adolescent teenagers  
that are trying to rebel against something that they can’t find. 
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kinda agree apart from the rebel part...teenagers aren't tryin to rebel,  
teenagers are tryin to see how fast they can get drunk or how many times  
they can get there hole, we ain't tryin to rebel against anything aight... 
that was the 60's the decade ure stuck in or 80's can't decide  

 
aight i thought that dude before was takin the piss but it seems the music  
world will crumble if ppl start listening to music that was made before my  
fuckin gran was born (Beethoven) but no i ain't gonna tell ya where ta  
shove it but the thought is there :P and yea sure anyone can swear into  
a microphone but not that many ppl can make it sound good and who would  
wanna listenin to you 

 

[steak] 

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kinda agree apart from the rebel part...teenagers aren't tryin to rebel,  
teenagers are tryin to see how fast they can get drunk or how many times  
they can get there hole, we ain't tryin to rebel against anything aight... 
that was the 60's the decade ure stuck in or 80's can't decide  

 
aight i thought that dude before was takin the piss but it seems the  
music world will crumble if ppl start listening to music that was made  
before my fuckin gran was born (Beethoven) but no i ain't gonna tell ya  
where ta shove it but the thought is there :P and yea sure anyone can  
swear into a microphone but not that many ppl can make it sound good  
and who would wanna listenin to you 
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First, I am a teenager i am seventeen years old i just try not to be  
assosiated with the no-brain kind of people that seem to frequent at  
my school, i try to make what i write make sence, i try to do well at  
my studies and i try not to rebel against something that isn't there.  
And i know that teenagers are trying to rebel, they do it all the time  
i watch them with disgust as the take the piss out of the teacher for  
teaching by making multiple farmyard animal noises in class while she  
is trying her hardest to give them a chance in life, this doesn't  
seem right to me.  

And it sickens me to the stomach. They rebel by "tryin to see how fast  
they can get drunk or how many times they can get there hole" for this  
reason i do not drink and i do not smoke, (getting my hole tho.... 
thats another story ;) ) i find it below me. Alcohol is for older people  
who can take the time to apprechieate a good wine with a nice year and  
for a nice tasting drink, not just to get a buzz off and to look  
cool, even though you don't (when our drunk that is...)  

But most importantley i try to like music based on how I feel about  
it not what my friends feel, that means that i will listen to any  
kind of music that sounds good, i listen to beethoven, mozart, hewy  
lewis and the news, bob dylan and pink floyed from god knows when,  
to up-to-the-minuet-bands like moby, nine inch nails, and the  
prodigy. So i wouldn't say i was stuck in the eightys or the sixteys.  

And at one point eminem was just like every other teenager out there,  
a pissed off little white boy who thought he was being unfairly treated  
and wanted to rebel, he just recordered his shouting, and some of it  
ryhmed. People seem to forget this and make him into something he is not.  

Besides, he's so fake.  

 

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...seems most ppl in this forum are over 40 or gay  

Great Software shit forum  

and btw i only started this thread to say how great Eminem's ablum was i  
didn't ask for faggit reply's from ppl over 40 
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Well i'm not over forty, so that must make me a "faggit" (spelling nicked  
from quoted text) i can tell you i am not gay, i don't believe that there  
is anything wrong with being gay, i see no problems with it and i try to  
treat all people with the respect they deserve and i don't base my o 
pinions of people based on thier sexuality. I't just not what i feel i  
want to do.  

However you wern't trying to make a note about my sexuality, you were  
trying to offend me, so i take offence. Calling names like "gay" and  
"faggot" are such imiture little things that little boys do, (like  
the people who listen to eminem)  

Kolbeinn had it right when he said that "it is rooted in the desire to  
outwardly express homophobia" and he is deaed right, the thing that only  
you can no however is it can also mean the classic "closet case"  
homosexual....you can never tell. 

 
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Regards  
Steak,  
Homepage / Ezine Addendum  

 

[Elementaluk] 

wooohooo CONTRAVERSY!!!!  

...btw yea i'm aware Dundee is the biggest shithole in the world  

...god dammit is someone gonna close this thread?? 

 

 

[steak] 

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Originally posted by phisherman  
And Steak, stick around  It'll be good to have some normal people here ^^ 
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Thanks phisherman, it's nice to get some positive feedback from a  
moderator, seeing as I am just a lonely junior member, though I have been  
here for a while, just never really posted, guess I just couldn't stay  
away from a good Eminem argument.  

Though now that I look over what I wrote, some of it doesn't make that  
much sense, which kind of contradicts what I actually said, for that  
I am sorry, mental note to self: proof read   

And as for Elementaluk Come on, aren’t you going to reply to my post?  
I spent all that time writing to you, which could have been spent  
writing t-files, for you just to ignore me and try and piss off zootm  
instead....some people.  

 
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Originally posted by Elementaluk  
...god dammit is someone gonna close this thread?? 
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What’s the matter Elementaluk?, did somebody write something that you  
couldn't argue against? Maybe it would just be easier for you if  
somebody in charge took pity on you and closed the thread? Then you  
would not be able to respond....  

Maybe... 

 
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Regards  
Steak,  
Homepage / Ezine Addendum  

 

[Elementaluk] 

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What’s the matter Elementaluk?, did somebody write something that you  
couldn't argue against? Maybe it would just be easier for you if  
somebody in charge took pity on you and closed the thread? Then you  
would not be able to respond....  
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umm...no i said is someone gonna close this thread cause its STUPID!  
and yall are all up on homosexuality a little more than me and you's  
seem to be more homophobic than me.  

and if i could be bothered reading the other posts i still doubt I  
would reply to em.  

if u like gays good 4 u...  

I speak a LITTLE like i'm from the hood cause of people on the internet  
i've just picked it up over the past year and i listen to alot of rap 
 music (Wu Tang, MOP, Ludacris, Jay-Z, Eminem, Dr-Dre, Snoop, Royce Da 5"9) 

 
[steak] 

 
This thread is getting boring, that’s right.  

So in (my) closing I wish to say a few things  

1. I am no homophobic, nothing I have said even suggests that, don't even  
bother wasting the energy to type a argument against that. Period.  

2. If you can't be bothered to read other threads how do you expect to  
argue against them  

4. I don't care how much you talk like you are "in the hood" weather  
it’s a little or a lot, I just suggest you use proper English in  
future if you want people to understand/respect you.  

I am going now. 

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Regards  
Steak,  
Homepage / Ezine Addendum  

 

 
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